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smibbo ([personal profile] smibbo) wrote2012-04-24 01:46 am

on the off-chance that any of the past gives a flying hoot

The reason I am no longer friends with quite a few people is very simple:

They offended me more than once.
I let them know they offended me in as neutral a way as possible.
They got pissed at ME for being offended and proceeded to berate me for being offended.
They then further maligned me when I refused to engage any more.

Here's a hint:if you have upset someone you care about, I should think you would WANT to at least TRY to make rights. By deciding to attack me because I was offended, you pretty much scream that you don't care about me at all. Which makes me question the whole of our previous friendship.

I'm not saying you have to agree with me or beat your breast, or declare yourself an asshole. Just allow that if I am offended, I have a RIGHT to be offended and since you CARE about me then you want to make things right. You may end up feeling like *I* am the asshole. That's fine. Maybe I am. But I guaran-damned-tee you won't get me to apologize to YOU if you don't have the wherewithal to approach the situation in a decent respectful manner.

Have I made it clear? There are three people in particular I am thinking about here. Very specific situations. They all did something that gravely upset me - and not for the first time either - but when I expressed my chagrin, i was basically treated WORSE. So I realized we must not really be friends. Because that's not how you treat your friends.

Trust me, if in the course of our interaction, you tell me I have upset you, even if I am pissed at you, I will approach the situation with something of an olive branch if not an outright immediate apology. Because no matter how irascible I can get? I am not actually looking to piss off my friends. And I am not just flapping my gums here; I have on MANY occasions humbled myself and apologized to a friend for upsetting them. Sometimes I had no idea I was doing it and sometimes I had gone overboard. And a couple of times I was just feeling shitty and took it out on the first person to make a minuscule mistake in my presence.

And yes, as soon as they told me they were offended, I apologized. Regardless of my feelings on the subject at hand. Because my friends mean more to me than "being right". Even if I was still upset or thinking they were "wrong". Someone being wrong it not license to make them feel shitty.

Always, afterwards we have been able to work out some shit, if it was needed.

but I don't work anything out with people who dismiss my feelings outright. Fuck that. once you make it clear you have no intention of examining your behavior, we're done. DONE.

And a couple of those people? I kind of miss the friendship I thought I had with them. But I don't want them back. Because that friendship was just what I THOUGHT was there. Obviously, I was mistaken. Because friendship is not predicated upon ME putting up with abuse from someone silently. Oh hell no.

[identity profile] michikatinski.livejournal.com 2012-04-24 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
<3

[identity profile] nolan-ash.livejournal.com 2012-05-09 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I found you through [livejournal.com profile] women_gamers and immediately resonated with this post in your journal.

I just dropped a toxic friendship and it feels so good to be free of that. She put up a fantastically dramatic friending policy (http://autumn-lynne-r.livejournal.com/9132.html) in her own journal after I left, self-describing herself as a misogynist and stomping her foot with her right to mouth off without thinking. It's everyone else's job not to be offended and to ask her ("politely"!) what she meant by something that sounded offensive. So she can claim she "really didn't mean" any bigoted thing she says. No thanks. @_@

I hope you're feeling better with losing some deadweight and not worse.

[identity profile] not-hothead-yet.livejournal.com 2012-05-10 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that was a lot pre-emptive striking in that link. From now on, if anyone ever gets offended she can point to that post as the reason she doesn't have to apologize.

Since this St, I've shucked three more people and though it sucks to find out your friends aren't honorable I am glad to get rid of that.