* Satia * Conclusion...?
Mar. 25th, 2004 02:48 pmSo, in essence, NOW you are saying that you are "working through" this depression by "honoring" it? Gee, that's funny, I thought you said you were wishing you had died. IN fact, I believe you say daily that you wish you were dead and you'd do it too if it weren't for your kids. That's not "working through" and you know it. That's either peaking the crest of depression or manipulating to hurt others. Either you want to hurt the people who are reading you every day (and trying to figure out ways to help you in whatever capacity) OR you are at the height of your depression. If you are at the height of it, then there's nowhere else to go but OUT. I truly hope that is the case.
You told Maeve that you couldn't understand her feelings of worthlessness. You lied to her face. You have the exact same feelings inside you bubbling all over the place and yet you lie to her, lie to your children and then crow about lying to them (and US) every day. You couldn't have simply told her, "yes I understand how you feel... I feel the same way too much. Could we talk about ways that we both try to deal with this feeling?" You had a chance to bond with her in an extremely important way; you could have shared something vital to growing up, but you chose to belittle her experience and claim ignorance of something you are going through RIGHT NOW.
I don't expect you to be strong all the time. I expect you to be honest though. You claim to be brutally honest but you are patently not. You claim that you have been wearing a mask and that if anyone were to contact you you'd simply pick it up again.
So all this time when I thought we were good friends, I was mistaken. All this time you've been trying to deceive me. When you get out of this, how can I ever know that you are happy to be my friend? How can I ever be sure that you aren't simply tolerating my presence and secretly loathing every minute of it?
I made a decision after getting rid of the ex-asshole: I will never tolerate being emotionally manipulated or deceived again by ANYONE, especially the people who claim to care about me. You've already admitted to doing such and now you defend such actions as your "way". You are angry that people are hurt by your constant threat of suicide and their expression of that hurt. Oh, it's okay for Satia to be hurting and to lash out at others, but it's not okay for others to cry for her? We're supposed to be like you and just hide those emotions?
As you said, we are not the same person. Our ways of dealing with things may often differ. When someone I care about hurts, I cry out in pain. When someone I care about needs, I cast about for ways to fill that need. When someone I care about lies to themself, I open my big fucking mouth and tell them what I see to be the truth.
I truly thought we were friends, but apparently I was wrong. I don't count among my friends anyone who lies to me and then ardently defends such deceit as if I was the one in the wrong. I shared my feelings with you honestly and openly because I felt you deserved such respect. You certainly have the right to reject my feelings, but if you choose to denigrate me for doing so, then you aren't my friend. Depression, I can understand - believe it or not LOTS of people have been where you are now. I have been there several times in the last year. To the point of breakdown. However, belittling, deceiving and trying to manipulate people who care about you - that's inexcuseable. I believe you said as much (or wanted to) to your daughter. Now you do exactly as she does. Nice.
I thought we were friends. Was I mistaken?
You told Maeve that you couldn't understand her feelings of worthlessness. You lied to her face. You have the exact same feelings inside you bubbling all over the place and yet you lie to her, lie to your children and then crow about lying to them (and US) every day. You couldn't have simply told her, "yes I understand how you feel... I feel the same way too much. Could we talk about ways that we both try to deal with this feeling?" You had a chance to bond with her in an extremely important way; you could have shared something vital to growing up, but you chose to belittle her experience and claim ignorance of something you are going through RIGHT NOW.
I don't expect you to be strong all the time. I expect you to be honest though. You claim to be brutally honest but you are patently not. You claim that you have been wearing a mask and that if anyone were to contact you you'd simply pick it up again.
So all this time when I thought we were good friends, I was mistaken. All this time you've been trying to deceive me. When you get out of this, how can I ever know that you are happy to be my friend? How can I ever be sure that you aren't simply tolerating my presence and secretly loathing every minute of it?
I made a decision after getting rid of the ex-asshole: I will never tolerate being emotionally manipulated or deceived again by ANYONE, especially the people who claim to care about me. You've already admitted to doing such and now you defend such actions as your "way". You are angry that people are hurt by your constant threat of suicide and their expression of that hurt. Oh, it's okay for Satia to be hurting and to lash out at others, but it's not okay for others to cry for her? We're supposed to be like you and just hide those emotions?
As you said, we are not the same person. Our ways of dealing with things may often differ. When someone I care about hurts, I cry out in pain. When someone I care about needs, I cast about for ways to fill that need. When someone I care about lies to themself, I open my big fucking mouth and tell them what I see to be the truth.
I truly thought we were friends, but apparently I was wrong. I don't count among my friends anyone who lies to me and then ardently defends such deceit as if I was the one in the wrong. I shared my feelings with you honestly and openly because I felt you deserved such respect. You certainly have the right to reject my feelings, but if you choose to denigrate me for doing so, then you aren't my friend. Depression, I can understand - believe it or not LOTS of people have been where you are now. I have been there several times in the last year. To the point of breakdown. However, belittling, deceiving and trying to manipulate people who care about you - that's inexcuseable. I believe you said as much (or wanted to) to your daughter. Now you do exactly as she does. Nice.
I thought we were friends. Was I mistaken?